[键盘侠]湖人再胜火箭|看似平平无奇没发力 实则早早领跑MVP!

[Post-Game Thread] The Los Angeles Lakers (9-3) defeat the Houston Rockets (3-6) 117-100, led by 26 from LeBron!

[赛后帖]洛杉矶湖人（9胜3负）今日在客场以117-100再胜休斯顿火箭（3胜6负）。

詹姆斯26分8板5助、浓眉19分10板2助5帽、小加5分4板5助2断2帽、波普14分3板3断、施罗德14分3板3助、库兹马11分11板、哈雷尔14分4板2帽；伍德18分8板、沃尔10分5助2断、哈登16分7板6助、泰特9分3板、戈登13分2助、考辛斯13分10板3助2断、麦克勒莫11分3板。

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[–]Lakers foulbowels 129 指标 2小时前

Obligatory "wasn't as close as scoreline makes it seem".

Weird ass game tbh, missed dunks and layups, turnovers galore, refs calling phantom fouls on errrrbody.

And Lebron still coasting to elite statlines wth.

湖人球迷：又是一场日常的“双方实际差距比最终分差大”。

说真的，这比赛诡异得一匹，各种扣飞和篮下吐饼，大把的失误，还有各种幽灵哨。

并且老詹还是划出了一场好看的数据。

[–]Lakers oopseedoopseewee 41 指标 2小时前

Man how many missed dunks were there lol

Good W though

湖人球迷：今天到底有多少次扣飞啊，哈哈哈哈

不过我湖赢得很稳。

[–][DAL] Wang Zhizhi suzukigun4life 11 指标 2小时前

I counted 5, but it could've been more

王治郅球迷：我数了有五个，不过可能更多。

[–]Lakers Human_mind 4 指标 1小时前

Plus the few blown layups. I'd like to know if that was as many as ever in one game. I thought I was watching a rec league game there at times.

湖人球迷：还有好几次上篮打铁。我都怀疑这是不是单场篮下铁最多的一场。我一度感觉自己在看一场业余赛事。

[–]Lakers prodigymix 6 指标 2小时前

First half was solid basketball, kept turnovers down and had solid ball movement and got some steals and fast breaks.

Second half was a hot pile of garbage on skid row.

湖人球迷：上半场我湖还是打得蛮好的，控制了失误，转移球也很到位，还有些抢断和快攻。

下半场简直是贫民窟的垃圾堆。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Crippledforlife42 3 指标 2小时前

Can we always play Houston. I quite like it when we play them

湖人球迷：咱能一直打休斯顿吗？我倒挺喜欢打他们的。

[–]Lakers Heor326 117 指标 2小时前

Lebron is fucking ridiculous

湖人球迷：特么詹姆斯简直强得离谱。

[–]Lakers thereturnofjagger 51 指标 1小时前

An above average basketball player for certain

湖人球迷：肯定是个平均线之上的球员。

[–]unjollyjollybean 25 指标 1小时前

All star potential if he keeps at it.

找这么打，他很可能进全明星==

[–]Strict-Gur2623 16 指标 1小时前

Having a quiet MVP season.

悄摸地打出了个MVP赛季啊

[–]Grand Floridian royal_10_N-bombs 6 指标 1小时前

LeBron could be the greatest role player of all time if he wanted to

只要老詹愿意，他可以成为史上最强角色球员

[–]NBA PhantomBear_626 108 指标 2小时前

The game can basically be summed up by that Bron no look 3. Just the Lakers toying around with the Rockets

本场比赛的缩影基本就是老詹那个装逼三分。简直就是湖人在逗火箭玩儿。

[–]Champion godFlow 68 指标 2小时前

No one cared after 7 minutes into the 2nd. Shit was over

第二节打了7分钟就没人好好打了，比赛那会儿就结束了

[–]Mavericks LoveMavs1031 24 指标 2小时前

Literally 3 quarters of garbage time

独行侠球迷：其实是三节的垃圾时间

[–]Lakers foulbowels 21 指标 2小时前

Might've been sooner than that honestly felt so one-sided the entire time

混球迷：也许比这还早，其实我感觉整场比赛都是一边倒。

[–]dadoaesopthefifth 291 指标 2小时前

There is nothing that will drive me more crazy than losing to FREAKING AVERAGE PLAYERS, which is what LeBron James is

最让我抓狂的就是输给特么一帮“平平无奇的”球员，詹姆斯就是这种(¬¬)

[–]Lakers ThatOneGuyy310 11 指标 2小时前

What’s not driving me crazy is how a championship team beat the crap out of an average team

湖人球迷：看着一支冠军球队把一支平平无奇的球队虐出翔，我很淡定。

[–]Lakers russketeer34 64 指标 2小时前

I love that the Lakers completely destroyed the Rockets franchise and what they've been trying to do for the past few years with that playoff series. Lakers paying Houston back for atrocities committed against Los Angeles.

湖人球迷：就喜欢看我湖彻底碾压火箭，还有我湖这两三年对火箭的各种还击，包括那轮系列赛。我湖以前在火箭那儿老遭罪了，这会儿正往回还呢

[–][NBA] Wendell Carter Jrpinoymilk 于 4小时前 发表887& 13 more

[Highlight] Lakers bench having some fun as LeBron relocates then knocks down the 3!

本场高光：詹姆斯转身装逼三分落袋之后，湖人板凳席集体狂欢！

[–]Lakers LittleFart 184 指标 4小时前

The disrespect!!!

湖人球迷：不尊重对手！！！(¬¬)

[–]Lakers EBDoo 113 指标 4小时前

My man stood there for three full seconds before running back lmao

湖人球迷：我詹整整站了三秒才往回跑，哈哈哈哈

[–]Knicks mr_feenys_car 27 指标 3小时前

Yeah but a few years ago he would stand there for the entire possession after a shot.

Regression.

尼克斯球迷：是啊，可要是放在几年前，他出手之后可以站完一整个回合。

退步了

[–]mediocredolphin 1253 指标 4小时前

wow Bron really feeling himself. That's probably one of the riskiest moves of his career in terms of potential to get memed on lmao

老詹还真是打嗨了。这也许算是他职业生涯最大胆的操作之一了，毕竟是很有可能上五大囧的，哈哈哈哈

[–]KnickedUp 622 指标 3小时前

You know when the three is pure

三分弹道很正的时候你就知道这球有了

[–]Lakers BerriesNCreme 53 指标 2小时前

Nick young has entered the chat

湖人球迷：尼克-杨进入了群聊

[–]Zion-Fat_Luka-FATTER 90 指标 2小时前

Kemba Walker says hello

沃克来问好。

[–]Raptors EchoBay 137 指标 3小时前

I can only imagine Skip Bayless tomorrow if he missed it. "Michael Jeffrey Jordan would NEVER miss that shot! Lebron James is officially OUT of the GOAT conversation, I don't want to hear it anymore!"

猛龙球迷：老詹那球要是没装成，那我能想象明天的Skip Bayless会这么说：“乔丹这种球绝对不会打铁！詹姆斯正式淡出史上最佳的讨论范围，别再跟我说这个了！”

[–]Raptors EchoBay 7 指标 3小时前

Yo, this mad disrespectful! We saw some rough shit in those LeBronto Playoff days against us, but this is on another level lmao. What did the Rockets do to make him stunt on them so hard?

猛龙球迷：呵，这也太瞧不起人了！咱龙蜜早些年在季后赛里也是见过那些勒伦多硬核操作的，不过老詹这下完全是突破了，哈哈哈哈。居然让老詹都耍起来了，火箭到底是干啥了？

[–][BOS] Shaquille O'Neal gda19 761 指标 4小时前*

I don't think the rockets can recover from this. They are taking this clowning and showing no fight

凯尔特人球迷：我觉得火箭是过不去这个坎儿了。他们被羞辱也毫无斗志地躺平。

[–]Lakers Significant_Night_65 270 指标 4小时前

Feritta has to sell the team and go into exile after this

湖人球迷：费尔蒂塔可以卖掉球队自我放逐了。

[–]Rockets slide_rules_ 141 指标 4小时前

I’d love that

火箭球迷：我巴不得。

[–]Lakers Coffeeandsoda 23 指标 4小时前

Rockets would rise up if Fertitta leaves. He’s their curse right now

湖人球迷：要是费尔蒂塔走了那火箭就起飞了，他才是火箭眼下的症结所在。

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[–]Heat Giannis1995 22 指标 2小时前

The Lakers just got a professional win. That's how champions preserve themselves.

热火球迷：湖人今天赢得很职业，这才是冠军球队蓄力的方式。

[–]Lakers adonisgawd 207 指标 2小时前

Man games against the rockets are usually fun since the banter with rockets fans is always spicy but these two games it was just boring and not fun.

Harden looks checked out and demoralized.

湖人球迷：天呐，想当初我湖和火箭的比赛向来都很有意思，因为咱湖蜜和火蜜的嘴炮总是很得劲儿，可这两场太无聊了，没劲呐。

感觉哈登就是晃点而且意志消沉。

[–][LAL] Stu Lantz CutLonzosHair2017 4 指标 1小时前

also fat

湖人球迷：还胖。

[–][LAL] Sasha Vujačić PairedFoot08 103 指标 2小时前

Rockets fans also definitely lost a lot of their spirit, they don't even try to defend Harden anymore (don't blame them)

湖人球迷：火蜜也绝对是丢了魂的，他们现在甚至都不再替哈登说话了（不怪他们）。

[–]Supersonics Zeech360 2 指标 1小时前

I rarely see Rockets fans period

超音速球迷：有些日子没怎么见着火蜜了。

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram MasterOberon 4 指标 1小时前

They were nonexistent in the game thread. The other day they were there complaining about the officiating the entire time but this time they just said fuck it and stayed home

湖人球迷：直播贴里也没见着火蜜。前天那场他们还全程喷裁判，可今天他们也就是爆个粗不出来了。

[–]Rockets Frostbrine 66 指标 2小时前

Nah Harden’s still top 5

火箭球迷：不，哈登依然是联盟前五。

[–][LAL] Sasha Vujačić PairedFoot08 59 指标 2小时前

Loyalty

湖人球迷：忠心护主！

[–]Rockets Frostbrine 33 指标 2小时前

I try

火箭球迷：尽力而为

[–]ADavid Johnson 4 指标 44 分钟前

And to be fair to Harden, nobody wants to be working for Tilman Fertitta if they can avoid it.

给哈登说句公道话哈，要是有得选，没人愿意给费尔蒂塔打球的。

[–]Lakers lalo1398 9 指标 1小时前

I mean no doubt, even when we were up big I was worried every time he’d score he would turn it up. Just hard to do when there’s no interest from him

湖人球迷：哈登肯定是前五实力的，哪怕我湖领先很多的时候，只要他得分我就会担心他爆发。可一旦他心不在焉的时候，那就难以回天了。

[–]Lakers NotUpForDebate11 3 指标 59 分钟前

I mean the bigger issue is other than wall and wood the rest of the team is just complete ass. Eric gordon is useless now and the rest of those guys are just g leaguers

湖人球迷：火箭更大的问题在于， 除了沃尔和伍德，其他人都菜的要死。戈登现在也没用了，其他人也就是个发展联盟水平。

[–]Lakers arosile 20 指标 2小时前

Harden looks like he gave up no interest at all

湖人球迷：感觉哈登就是一点打球的心思都没得。

[–]Rockets wgel1000 51 指标 2小时前

He's a big part of the problem.

火箭球迷：我火目前的问题主要是他。

[–]can_wien07 29 指标 2小时前

he is the problem. Destroyed the team chemistry

没错，他摧毁了球队的化学反应。

[–]Lakers percbandit 41 指标 2小时前

I mean even then, their defense is so abysmal that it’s preventing them from being a playoff squad.

湖人球迷：即便是这么回事，可火箭这防守也太烂了吧，这算哪门子的季后赛阵容啊

[–]can_wien07 4 指标 1小时前

and when your best player doesnt give a fuck about defense or anything dont expect anyone else too. The rockets have ALOT of solid players. The warriors team has a far worse roster.

当你的大当家不在乎防守时，你就甭指望其他人会好好防了。火箭其实不乏好手，他们的阵容比勇士好得多。

[–]Rockets SuperYusri500 257 指标 2小时前

I hate this team.

火箭球迷：我讨厌这支火箭。

[–]Rockets timmysp 3 指标 2小时前

What team? You mean the 5 guys running around the court in rocket's jerseys doing absolutely nothing?

火箭球迷：哪支球队？你是说场上5个穿着我火球衣瞎跑啥也没干的人吗？

[–]Lakers Coffeeandsoda 128 指标 2小时前

They seem so out of sync.

湖人球迷：貌似火箭全队都不在一个步调上。

[–][LAL] Rick Fox melperz 39 指标 1小时前

Atnleast they're showing up to play

湖人球迷：至少人家还愿意上场。

[–]Lakers thelaziest998 23 指标 1小时前

Yeah the same way I show up to work everyday. Sure I’m physically there and I technically do what is asked, that doesn’t mean I’m not sandbagging it and would rather be elsewhere.

湖人球迷：是啊，我每天去上班也是这个状态。没错，我的肉体在公司，有任务我也会照做，可这并不意味着我不是在做做样子，其实我更想待在别的地方。

[–]Lakers 00DPark_ 57 指标 2小时前

It’s not even the Rockets fault. The Lakers figured out their offense. They were blowing up the PNR then rotating to steal the kickout three. There’s not much Houston could’ve done without making major adjustments offensively.

湖人球迷：今天的失利甚至都不是火箭的错。怪我湖防守太猛。火箭的挡拆各种被拆穿，突分找外线也被识破。休斯顿如果不在进攻端做出重大调整的话，那也成不了气候。

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[–]Rockets VenmoMeFiveBucks 22 指标 2小时前

How's everybody's night been so far?

火箭球迷：大家伙儿今晚过得咋样啊？

[–]Lakers ThatOneGuyy310 15 指标 2小时前

REALLY good

湖人球迷：还真挺好

[–]Raptors NotWD 19 指标 2小时前

16 points on 5-16? The fuck was Harden doing?

猛龙球迷：16中5就拿16分？哈登这特么搞啥啊？

[–]Kings ak3331 4 指标 1小时前

Harden's postgame interview said everything. He's done. He's clearly done giving a shit about his body too.

国王球迷：哈登的赛后采访说明了一切。他摊牌了。而且他现在显然对自己的体型也是不在意的。

[–]Gran Destino horseshoeoverlook 于 1小时前 * 发表

James Harden says Rockets are "just not good enough ... I love this city. I literally have done everything that I can. I mean, this situation is crazy. It’s something that I don’t think can be fixed."

哈登说火箭“就是不够好……我爱休斯顿。我确实已经尽力了。现在的情况很荒唐，我觉得这是无法被修复的。”

[–]76ers philly26715 312 指标 1小时前

And here. We. Go.

76人球迷：来！啦！

[–]NBA EarthWarping 10 指标 2小时前

The Harden/Simmons trade seems like it should happen

貌似哈登换西蒙斯的交易可以操作了

[–][BOS] Kevin Garnett celtics090 6 指标 2小时前

It's over Houston. Trade Harden.

凯尔特人球迷：休斯顿，都结束了。赶紧卖了哈登吧

[–]Rockets slide_rules_ 6 指标 2小时前

Good think OKC is gonna have our pick haha kill me

火箭球迷：好在雷霆会拿走我火的选秀签== 呵呵，杀了我吧

[–][SAS] Devin Vassell desubeast 375 指标 1小时前

People will shit on him but imo this is better than him claiming they can be good when he clearly wants out.

马刺球迷：很多人会因为哈登这番话开喷，可我觉得这样挺好的，明明他就是想走，总不能指望他说球队会没事吧。

[–]Jay New2K 126 指标 1小时前

Always have to credit honesty

坦诚向来是值得赞赏的。

[–]Pelicans 16ringsupinmycocina 141 指标 1小时前

Fanbases wanted honesty from their superstars and Harden is giving it out lmao

鹈鹕球迷：队粉们总是希望自家的超巨能坦诚相待，这次哈登算是让他们求仁得仁了，哈哈哈哈

[–]Grand RapidsCreative 17 指标 42 分钟前

Better than Kyrie at least.

至少比欧文强。

[–]Heat jbenson255 27 指标 1小时前

It really puts an end to the rockets fans who were grasping at hopes that he would want to stay with that roster

热火球迷：哈登这话等于是彻底了断了火蜜们最后一丝对哈登留队的幻想。

[–]Rockets LightSkinDarylMorey 24 指标 1小时前

Facts. At least we can move forward if anything.

Time for a new page

火箭球迷：没错，至少我们能向前看了。

也是时候翻篇了。

[–]Back In2019 175 指标 1小时前

Maybe Kyrie heard that the Nets are trying to trade him for Harden, so he's completely tanking his own value to sabotage it.

也许欧文就是在得知篮网在努力促成引进哈登，所以才会有之前的种种微操彻底抹杀自身价值，从而搅黄这笔交易。

[–]Lakers JoeBiden2020FTW 15 指标 1小时前

Harden's done nothing wrong, looks like people are finally realizing.

It was Tilman who burned the franchise to the ground. Harden is just trying to seek refuge.

湖人球迷：哈登就没做错啥，貌似大家总算是明白了。

让火箭陷入窘境的人是费尔蒂塔，哈登只是在避难。

[–]Raptors realsomalipirate 14 指标 1小时前

Do we not remember him not showing up to camp and going out all night during a fucking pandemic?

猛龙球迷：难道他不去训练营、特么疫情期间彻夜未归的操作，你们这么快就忘了吗？

[–]Mavericks quiteCryptic 31 指标 1小时前

I mean I give credit to being straight up and not secretive about it...

But from what I can tell it seems like he requested a lot of the shitty moves from the last few years to get the team to this state.

But I also have to sympathize about getting the new cheap owner too.

独行侠球迷：哈登有啥说啥、不遮遮掩掩当然是值得肯定的……

可在我看来，貌似是他这些年要求的各种稀烂操作才导致火箭落到这般田地的吧。

不过呢，他遇到这个抠门的新老板也是值得同情的。

[–]Corporal_Snorkel69 9 指标 1小时前

The real final nail in the coffin was going all in for microball though

不过压垮骆驼的最后一根稻草就是梭哈“微球”。

[–]Timberwolves Wrightzlol 17 指标 1小时前

Harden blew up the cp3, capela rockets and he needs to take onus for that. That team was a legitimate championship caliber roster. Cp3, Gordon, tucker, Capela, Harden. Stacked team that choked at the finish line.

森林狼球迷：是哈登摧毁了那支拥有保罗和卡佩拉的火箭，他得为此担责。那支火箭还真是具备冠军实力的，保罗、戈登、塔克、卡佩拉、哈登，兵强马壮的阵容，只可惜倒在了终点线。

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[–]Rockets sd1414 83 指标 2小时前

Lakers supporting cast being good might actually cost LeBron the MVP this season since he doesn't have to play anything close to a full game even though he's dominating during his minutes.

火箭球迷：湖人如此优秀的辅助阵容或许会断送老詹本赛季的MVP，虽说他出场的时候依然能统治全场，但他现在压根就不必打满整场。

[–]aj2704 12 指标 2小时前

That actually might be true. Lakers were up 30, while LeBron only had 23 points? Like man, when has that ever happen before.

还真有这个可能。老詹才得23分湖人就领先30分了？这放以前压根就不存在的吧

[–]Lakers MMDroxy 170 指标 4小时前

He's not even trying right now...

湖人球迷：他现在甚至都没发力……

[–]blazinit430 23 指标 3小时前

Gonna be pretty scary once he stops this load management business

等到他不必顾及负荷管理了，那才是相当可怕。

[–]Rockets sd1414 12 指标 2小时前

Yeah, his line looks like an average game until you realize he put up a line that I think was 22/5/4 in just the first half.

火箭球迷：是啊，他的数据看起来平平无奇，可其实他上半场就已经22+5+4了。

[–]Lakers Leify1989 79 指标 2小时前

If he didn't win it last year, he won't win it this year

湖人球迷：既然老詹上赛季没拿MVP，那这个赛季也是拿不到的。

[–]Mavericks k2abal 11 指标 1小时前

Giannis put up better stats with a better record last year. The choice was easy. If they have the best record (which they most likely will) and noone is putting up way better stats than him I think he will win it

独行侠球迷：上赛季确实是字母哥数据更好且球队战绩更强。投票人选择很简单。如果湖人本赛季拿下最佳战绩，且詹姆斯数据最好看的话，那我觉得MVP就是他的。

[–]Rockets sd1414 25 指标 2小时前

He made his push too late in the season. I thought he had a slight chance after those 2 games against the Clippers and Bucks, but doubt it would have mattered. MVP is about narratives and seems that most voters had made up their mind.

This season you can tell there's an opening for him to be an early frontrunner. Embiid is making a strong case in Philly too though.

火箭球迷：老詹上赛季常规赛发力太晚了。打完快船和雄鹿的那两场我才觉得他有一丢丢拿MVP的希望，可我觉得那会儿已经不重要了。MVP重点在于群众呼声，貌似当时大部分投票人已心有所属。

本赛季大家就知道，他早早就打出了MVP领跑者的表现。不过恩比德在费城的表现力也很强。

[–][SEA] Jerome James DG_Now 14 指标 1小时前

It was so dumb. The media ordained Giannis with 4 months to go. And Giannis didn't get Barack Obama on the phone; LeBron did that. If that's not Most Valuable, what is?

超音速球迷：去年MVP选得太蠢了。媒体提前四个月就把MVP颁给字母哥了。奥巴马都没给他打电话呢，可是给老詹打了。如果这都不是最有价值，那啥是？

[–]Rockets sd1414 5 指标 1小时前

Happens all the time in the MVP race. Media needs something to talk about in the middle of the season, so the conversations start to happen early. If you don't make your case early, you're most likely toast.

火箭球迷：MVP竞争向来都是这个套路。媒体们在赛季中期总得有话题吧，所以他们得早早开始造势。如果你不早点拿出有说服力的表现，那就很可能陪跑。

[–][CLE] LeBron James Zachkah 4 指标 1小时前

He has a better chance this year. Giannis fatigue, Luka underperforming, Jokic is in the mix but his team sucks, KD is in the mix but he doesn't have the all around impact that Lebron does, who else is in the convo? CP3 if the Suns outperform expectations and he has solid numbers? I doubt it but it's possible. Curry if the Warriors outperform? Possible. Other than that, who's in the mix?

骑士球迷：老詹本赛季拿MVP的机会更大。字母哥让大家审美疲劳，东契奇表现差强人意，约基奇很猛但球队菜鸡，杜兰特也有份，但是他的整体影响力不如老詹，还有谁呢？如果太阳异军突起且保罗数据亮眼的话，那他有希望？我不觉得，但可能性是有的。要是勇士打出惊喜库里有希望？可能吧。除此之外，还有谁？

[–]Lakers georgesmileyslighter [分数隐藏] 46 分钟前

I think so too. It seems like Embiid is the other “main” MVP candidate, but if Lakers get the top overall seed, I think it goes to LeBron. It’s pretty much a “Life Achievement Award” if he wins it—the narrative is too good. I see people thinking Curry has a chance, but the Warriors might not finish with a good record.

湖人球迷：我也这么想的。貌似另一个重要的MVP候选人是恩比德。可如果我湖拿下联盟第一的战绩，我觉得那就是老詹的了。如果他拿了，那几乎就算是个“终生成就奖”。你要说库里有希望我也能理解，可是勇士或许不能拿到一个不错的排名。